27 June 2006

Morgellons continues

The Adrants thread continues to grow and gets weirder. First, Morgellons sufferers are banding together to chastise the insensitivity of those who would question their disease's existence. Then, there are accusations of identity deceit: "KC Ridgewalker"--the most voluminous poster and appears on only one other page, a web site that touts Better Living Through Atmospheric Engineering--is really "Karen Marsh." Their accuser "Jay Reynolds" is really "Ron" or perhaps a govt. spook and possibly the purveyor of a conspiracy (or possibly spoof-conspiracy) site that examines the evils of contrails (vapor trails).

Mind Hacks has also taken up the Morgellons question. Their conclusion is that it's too esoteric and imprecise to be viral marketing (Philip K. Dick's fictional descriptions of parasitosis have it manifesting differently). But then--get this--they state that Randy Wymore, a genuine professor of Pharmacology and Physiology at Oklahoma State University [emphasis mine] has made public statements on the disease. Mind Hacks link to their genuinity points to an okstate.edu page that lists 30 doctors in their biomedical sciences department: Wymore is the only one that doesn't have a bio/credentials link.

It's like people are injecting weirdness. I can appreciate this recent comment on Adrants:

What the heck happened to this thread? Is this some sort of college prank? It's degenerated from a thoughtful discussion to a spellcheck war, who can google better contest! ... these patient accounts are ridiculous! So, a person is spewing long fibers, using a whole roll of tape to extract them, and when they go to the doctor, all they have is a lesion with a little blacm speck that they're picking away at with a magnifying glass and tweezers??

Another poster from a Hondo's World entry on Morgellons points to an article on the Morgellons Watch blog that a few doctors are making money off of patients who may be delusional and will therefore require indefinite services. Comments ensued.

[ posted on 27 June 2006 at 12:18:52 AM ]
Comments

My head hurts just from reading this blog post, it would probably explode if I read the entire thread. =)

Posted by: Jason B at June 27, 2006 09:34 AM

Even the CDC has taken a stab at Morgellon's

"Thank you for your inquiry regarding the condition some refer to as “Morgellons.” CDC is presently bringing together medical experts from several scientific specialties in a working group to help us understand this pattern of illness or syndrome. Our aim is to gather information on people reporting this condition to see if they share common traits, experiences, or anything that might have put them at risk for these symptoms. We hope to learn enough about the condition so we can offer useful advice for control or treatment, something that is not possible now because too little is known.
Since CDC has no clinical center or hospital to evaluate or treat patients, we urge persons who believe they are suffering from this condition or who have distressing symptoms to seek evaluation and medical care from their local health care providers. From MorgellonsSyndrome@cdc.gov

Posted by: World Panderer at June 27, 2006 12:02 PM

You saying "I" posted or own something about Atmospheric WHAT? I frigging failed science in highschool. You show me where I EVER posted on such a site. I'm tired of my personal name being slandererd on the internet and just because it is the internet does not mean that you can use false information wrecklessly and get away with it. It is slander just the same. Yes, I had volumes to say about Morgellons and I will say more if you wish, but I am not, nor have I ever been associated with Atmospheric What the F and prove it you slimy scumbag. I'm getting sick to death of these personal attacks on my personal private information, unprovoked, when I am a disabled BUSINESSWOMAN in the legal field that had NOTHING absolutely NOTHING to do with the sciences and if you really want to know all of my personal information, those of you that hide behind your darn blogging masks and slander folks PERSONALLY? I'll give you my resume, my business references, just about all you want but my home address because there are such a buttload of crazy fools out there that I would never consider going that far, or I would. Just to prove that I am simply a sick, sincere, sufferer of a horrendous government created disease! Now bring it on! Bring it on! And who are YOU anyway. You wanna call me out and slander me, you're as sick as Jay Reynolds, so grow some balls (my son told me the other night that I had 8 pound metaphorical balls and he's right!) and come out from behind your mask and I'll take you on, one ON one. Did you ever stop to consider how common the name Karen Marsh might be? Or are you another of these sick paranoids or a government plant yourself?
Bring it on fool! I apologize for my language but I am FURIOUS. Can you spell INVASION OF PRIVACY? Oh yeah, you idiotic right wing Bush administration supporters let us lose our constutuional rights. You, whoever you are had better be sure of what you are saying before you stick your foot down your damn throat. I told Jay Reynolds I have 4 attorneys on retainer, one is specifically FOR SLANDER ISSUES. Do you wanta get in line? Bring it ON!
KC

Posted by: KC Ridgewalker at July 12, 2006 05:51 PM

Ms. Marsh,

I find this kind of treatment towards you basically tribal. I will never read such a close-minded author again. Good Luck to you.

Do you need some pro-bono work accomplished? I'd definetly look into slander issues if I were you.

Fear and Loathing no more! Only loathing of such idiots.

Good luck Ms. Marsh.


London

Posted by: London at July 12, 2006 06:52 PM

KC Ridgewalker - "You show me where I EVER posted on such a site."

And you show me where in the original post that it was stated you ever did?

"Idiotic right-wing Bush supporters?"

I really would like to see how you defend that obnoxious lack of comprehension after you read through the content of this web-site.

Sounds like slander to me.

"You, whoever you are had better be sure of what you are saying before you stick your foot down your damn throat."

Aye. And I certainly hope that you realize how out of line you are in your approach and demeanor. Appalling.

PS - Can I be a defendant?

Posted by: Mason at July 12, 2006 06:55 PM

Did I say YOU personally as a Bush admin. supporter? Do you not recognize a generalization when you see it? I said PROOVE that I am associated with any atmospheric group or blog. You detracted and distracted, did you not? You wanna be a defendant, bet your sweet tush! I told you in a private email to talk to Steve Hall about me and re-think your position because I mean business. You're not going to make a fool out of me because I'm not one and I won't play the dirty way the bloggers play. I am what I am and I KNOW what I am and you do not have a clue. Talk to Steve and you just might decide to do the right thing....apologize and back way offa me.
KC Ridgewalker

Posted by: KC Ridgewalker at July 12, 2006 07:21 PM

Then, there are accusations of identity deceit: "KC Ridgewalker"--the most voluminous poster and appears on only one other page, a web site that touts Better Living Through Atmospheric Engineering--is really "Karen Marsh."

Point in question.
KC

Posted by: Kc Ridgewalker at July 12, 2006 07:24 PM

You have no point...that's my point. He is merely describing the content of the thread. He is not stating that you have posted at the site. Your name does appear on this website. Simple goddamn comprehension. 'Appear' is the word he uses...not 'post'. If you want "proof", follow the link and CTRL-F for "ridgewalker".

"Oh yeah, YOU [emphasis mine] idiotic right wing Bush administration supporters let us lose our constutuional rights."

To say this was a generalization is infinitely more of a stretch than the original poster saying you posted at the 'atmospheric' website. Again, he states no such claim. This being the biggest mis-step of your ill-conceived harrassment. Anything you say after this has zero value other than entertainment value. I'm not too hopeful humility is going to right your ship here.

"Do you not recognize a generalization when you see it?"

Perhaps I have trouble in that regard (not really) but I do recognize backpedalling when I see it.

By the way, you have sent no such email to me because you see...I'm not the author of this site. I am not the original poster. My name is Mason. Hi, nice to meet you. The webmaster's name is no mystery either, no one is 'hiding' here...that's how you were able to email him. Once again, your flight from the handle has flung you into a pile of shit. Open your eyes jackass.

My disgust for your rant comes not from your condition, I could be sympathetic. Rather, my disgust comes from your prejudicial, ill-informed, self-centered, blind and unbelievably atrocious crap-job of a post. So don't take my responses as an attack on your plight, whatever that may be. That's not the issue here. But seeing as how the facts scurry away from your approach, your inability to understand isn't terribly surprising.

Apologize? Repeat after me: What - the - Phuck?

Posted by: Mason at July 12, 2006 08:02 PM

London,

Ignorantly subscribing to Ms. Marsh's theatrics is the most profound example of "tribalism" one can find in this discussion.

Posted by: Mason at July 12, 2006 09:26 PM

I don't need to say a single further word. Your theatrics speak for themselves. And your namecalling and immaturity is vulgar. You have spoken for yourself and I think we can let the people decide here who needs a slice of humble pie. I didn't ask for your attack Mason. Apparerntly you have nothing better to do with your life. Looks to me like you need to get one.

Posted by: KC Ridgewalker at July 12, 2006 11:27 PM

Immature and vulgar? Yeah...sorry I lost my patience:

"...I'll take you on..."
"...be sure of what you are saying before you stick your foot down your damn throat..."
"...slimy scumbag..."
"...sick..."
"...grow some balls..."
"...bring it on fool..."
"...idiotic right-wing Bush administration supporters..."

Not to mention the oft-repeated but nonetheless silly...no, childish accusations of slander.

Are you really serious? Seriously a jackass? Mystifying...

I think we know why you haven't addressed any of the problems in your post. And I think we know why we won't hear anymore from you.

Posted by: Mason at July 13, 2006 12:17 AM

Really Mason? Why is that? Please expand (as if you haven't already) as I still don't get your point, other than to get up on a soapbox and rant. But if you were terminally ill and woke up frequently with folks warning you that some blogger SOMEWHERE in the Ether did not have the decency of allowing you privacy (and I mean the use of my personal name and erroneous information posted by J. Reynolds, the sociopathic idiot, on Adrants, that was indeed what falls under both federal and state law as slander), you'd be a little irate yourself.
To actually be accused of BEING Mr. Reynolds is more than a joke, I am indeed including Mr. Reynolds in a slander lawsuit against the Northeastern Newspaper and Mr. Reynolds for posting that information ON Adrants. Because my husband (disabled American Vet) was attacked by fraternity thugs and nearly killed but a countercharge was made by the assailants as he scratched his face with my husband's cane. Well that was quickly dismissed and the two criminals were convicted yesterday with aggravated assault charges. Steve Hall, a very kind, generous, sincere and understanding person had the sense to see what a terrible mistake had been made in allowing Reynolds to attack me and my family and felt horribly about even suggesting that Morgellons was not a real disease and offered to erase the entire blog.
I told him no, no thankyou but thanks for the gesture, because if he could become convinced as an original skeptic then perhaps others might be touched by the stories of the sufferers rather than harassed and attacked.
Now if you want to stay on the topic of Morgellons, I'll be glad to, but I've had about enough of the personal attacks from nowhere from people who don't know diddly about me, who I am, what I'm about and what my situation is. The problem I have with these blogs is the irresponsibility shown in not researching, doing their homework and speaking our words (the patients) out of context without even having a clue of the physical and psychological torture we've been through. If you want to know who I am. Go to CNN and look up the Mystery Thread disease. OR go to Morgellons.org and click on the media link and get the streaming video link directly from there, You'll even see my name on the box of samples, bright yellow that flashes by on the screen. I will be shown in an upcoming Primetime investigative report also. While you're at it you might take the time to listen to Dr. Wymore Speaks. It's about 10 minutes long but the emphasis is dignity and respect, neither of which you bloggers seem to have a clue about! For some reason this seems to get under certain people's skin (ha! unintentional play on words, but appropriate!). This always makes me wonder who you and your kind are, that you take the time out of your life to spend ranting on and on about a person who is doing nothing but suffering from 100 percent disability, is a spokesperson for a cause, helps with patient assistance and advocacy, fundraising and that sort of thing. What have I ever done to ANY of YOU? I simply want my privacy back. And do not appreciate being the brunt of jokes, speculation or more accurately, what is portrayed as fact, and certainly not any association other than he does have his balls in a noose, the horrid person known as Jay (John) Reynolds. And yes, I know who he is, have pictures of him, know where he lives, know his children's names. Plenty. That's why the jerk finally had the sense to lay off of me, or Steve Hall being the decent person he is, did the right thing by moderating his blog appropriately, but Steve was very concerned and compassionate. Do you even own those emotions Mr. Mason? Because if you do, you might think twice about attacking innocent strangers who are struggling to stay alive, with barely the energy to get out of bed, much less deal with this sort of b.s. But to answer a previously posed question, if I'm so sick why do I spend my time answering to these blog attacks? Because I am an honest, ethical, good human being and I will defend my character until the very end. THAT is why Mr. Mason, so no, I will not "disappear" and you will hear from me as much as I can physically possibly address the issue. You haven't run me off. I don't know who or what you are, but I'm for real and if you want, I'll just make myself at home and become a permanent fixture. The proverbial elephant in the room.
But I personally would like to stay on topic, which you can't seem to do. This thread must have been started around the Morgellons issue or my name wouldn't have come up in the first place, It is a horrendous disease that I wouldn't even wish on you or even Jay Reynolds, bless his beady-eyed fat redneck soul.
I will not stoop to playground antics. Yes, I was darned PO'd to wake up to this this morning. But I'll be here Mason, to answer questions regarding Morgellons and defend my character and if you all want a real Morgfest, I'll bring the whole gang in and we can have a true "exchange of information" for if that's not what a blog is for, then I see no other purpose than to bully the vulnerable. And as to slander, it was the content of Mr. Reynolds' posts that was personal and incredibly erroneous that got him in hot water. Not the tit for tat fussing and fighting that goes on in these blogrants.
Now, please be succinct, exactly what do you all want with me and what do you want to know? I'll tell you every damn thing there is to know about this disease if you like but that's it. You want me to re-address what I said before. No, you read it, everyone can read it. Walk a mile in my shoes and then tell me you wouldn't be a little put off by the accusations that were made. Me being Reynolds for God's sake????!!!!! Anything you say after this could not possibly insult me any further. The man is an idiot. And a cruel and irresponsible one at that. So here I am, putting myself out there to be a target for your fun and games. You enjoy messing with ill and suffering people. Shoot!
But be prepared for a few hundred to join me if you really want some fun and games. I'm not the only Morgellons patient in the world. I just happen to be an outspoken one.
Best to you and may this horrid man-made creation NEVER touch anyone that you know or love.
KC

Posted by: KC Ridgewalker at July 14, 2006 03:48 AM

Meh.

Go sell your crazy somewhere else.

Posted by: sstrader at July 14, 2006 10:16 AM

[deleted - this user has been banned]

Posted by: KC Ridgewalker at July 14, 2006 10:32 AM

No ma'am, I have no sympathy for someone that barges into a blog with a pathological flurry of miscomprehension, lies and ignorance. And the madness persists even after the miscues have clearly been pointed out.

I think 'meh' means the author is not impressed.

Morgellon's needs a spokesperson, not a lunatic.

Posted by: Mason at July 14, 2006 10:47 AM

Sorry Mason, Maybe I had read your original post wrong. It was not until after you explained to her that you were not insinuating what she thought, did I understand.

But I have not been to this blog site since I wrote the other day and now I see you are attacking me. What does this say about you?

I honestly was taking up for someone that has done an amzing job at helping sick individuals with a scary and debilitating new illness.

She amazed me with what she accomplished in this regards. I'm sorry Mason. You would have really liked her.

Posted by: London at July 14, 2006 03:25 PM

I am not the author of the original post. (I'll say for the 2nd time). The author has not even contributed to this thread other than the original and one comment. ('Mason' and 'sstrader' are not the same person).

You came here with accusations by subscribing to Ridgewalker's point-of-view without taking the time to read the original post. You also used the term 'idiots'.

If you considered my reference to your "tribalism" as an attack, that's unfortunate but I won't take responsibility for that nor apologize for it. I was merely throwing up a mirror. Please note that you invoked the term initially (and incorrectly) .

Morgellon's has NOTHING to do with my utter disgust at this individual's rant. This particular individual's physical condition and struggles (and all she does to help them) are not the issues here (I'll say again).

As stated earlier, I have no patience for people who do not take the time to absorb and understand what people write and say. Ridgewalker was way off-base and way out of line and by expressing an unquestioning consent to her point-of-view, so were you (albeit to a lesser degree).

Posted by: Mason at July 14, 2006 07:56 PM

I had the symptoms of Morgellons with extreme pain and parasites seen with a 100X microscope.My doctor prescribed Hydroxyzine HCL 10MG. tablets and Clobetasol Propionate ointment 0.05% The symptoms disappeared in 10 days on May 25,2006.
M

Posted by: M at August 8, 2006 10:11 PM
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